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Post by sogger27 on Feb 18, 2007 7:54:40 GMT -5
Thanks Chris! I will be playing in several events in the next 7 weeks and there will be at least 3 rating PRO's at 2 of these events. I am going to lobby these raters/friends to no end about getting my name and a fair rating sent to Bowers. A accurate rating may have to wait until next years list but I think they can get my name on the internet Bower site.
Post Script: To all Shufflers. Keep playing, have fun, and verbally promote our sport to all the AM's and virgins that you talk to at the events you attend... Thanks for reading...Sogger27
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Post by sogger27 on Feb 9, 2007 23:42:47 GMT -5
PeaHead - Thank You for your questions and input! I do play in at least 2 events per month, and have for years. They always list me verbally as a 1.5> since I'm not in the Bowers book. At the same time a few of the Raters in the event that day will say I should be at least a 1 if not a 0. I reply to them, "then rate me, please!" At most events I attend, if they have an A/B draw the night before the main event of the next day, I am most always put in the A player group for the drawing. I do get uneasy being treated as an AM player when everyone I play with knows I should not be, but as long as they don't put me in the Bowers book, I can play in any and all events, which I will continue to do if it takes that to get someone to accually rate me according to my playing ability. I have honestly been trying very hard for the last 3 years to get rated, I've talked to Raters that say next year you won't be playing as a 1.5>, but no one has submitted any numbers to Bowers pertaining to me, and I'm not sure why. As it stands right now I guess I'll die an Am (only because I'm not rated in the book). I only want to be rated to make my playing in events more accurate and fair to all the other players. Like I said, I'm in Indiana and I know and play against all but 1 of our states raters. I can't rate myself, but if I was to make a call on it I would say I should be a 1 or 0. I'll keep playing and asking to be rated, it's bound to happen eventually. Yes, there are a hand full of 2's and am's in my area that regularly come in the money in open events. Go figure...
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Post by sogger27 on Feb 9, 2007 8:42:08 GMT -5
Hello , I've been a shuffler for almost 40 years. I'm not in the Bowers book and I play with and against Bower book rated 1's, 0's, -1's at least twice a month. I even win about 40% of my games against these great players. When I go to events, whether to play or to watch, I do watch as many different games as possilble when I'm not playing. The one thing I do notice "almost always" is when a Bower rated weaker (1.5> Am) player sends a Pro rated player to the losers bracket on the big board. I'm not talking about one great game out of the Am and a very bad game from the Pro, I'm talking about both playing great and the Am winning the game. I've seen some 1.5's> do this on a regular basis, over years of play and yet they still remain 1.5>. These same 1.5> players usually finish somewhere in the money. I'm in Indiana and in my lowly opinion (which I generally keep to myself), we have several of the best players in the country bar none! What we also have are far to many 0's and 1's that are rated 1.5>! This screams for more attention from the raters to do what they should be doing every time they are at a event. Please rate fairly, as I feel you have been doing 90% of the time, but most of all, please rate all those that are you are seeing and watching at the events you attend, that require a rating change or to be rated for the first time. I know it's a bit time consuming, but it must be done by all raters. Well, there's my 2 cents worth! Please be gental on me with your comebacks! Let's all try to remember that above all that this Game/Sport involves, fun should still be #1. Thanks for your time and concern. Sogger27
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Post by sogger27 on Feb 20, 2007 8:53:00 GMT -5
Hello Shufflers! Most all events are fun, and go very smoothly, always starting a bit later than was promoted, and I think most players are used to this tiny issue. There are still some other issues that could and should be addressed pertaining to our sport here on this website because no one talks serious issues at an event. There is some cursing and complaining, but nothing that the event staff (callers) can't resolve on the spot. I will throw one suggestion out and see what happens. I think that every player at all events should be charged an extra $5 fee to go to the host to see that new wax is provided for the event. I have talked with many players that say the boards are ok but the wax isn't worth a darn. If the host is also a player and knows that they have enough new (good) wax for another event or two, they could and should wave the extra $5 wax fee until needed again. We do help the hosts by purchasing food and drink while we are there, but remember that they supply the Plaques or Trophys. Also, if there was no hosted event to enter we would be somewhere else sliding weights, and buying food and drinks. When we are playing we don't do much but shoot and have fun, and I would like to see it stay that way, so if you have any questions, comments, complaints or issues, please, let's work them out here on this website format and not just continue to put things off. If it's on your mind, it's worth discussion! Thanks for reading, and please promote our sport. Sogger27
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Post by sogger27 on Feb 17, 2007 21:06:22 GMT -5
Hi Shufflers! I think that the PRO/AM events bring in more players than other formats. This usually gets rating PRO's in the same events with those that they really need to be watching and rating for the Bowers Book. The AM events are not far behind when it comes to the number of players involved in the event. The True Round Robin events (especially doubles) are very fun and intense and are sure to bring players back time after time. Opens are very nessesary events and should always be offered, afterall, anyone can enter! Thanks for reading...Sogger27
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Post by sogger27 on Feb 22, 2007 7:18:45 GMT -5
Hello Shufflers! Good point about the sponsors peahead. An announcement should be made prior to every player/team auction that there will be a possibility of a split between the final 2 players/teams, or that there will be no splits allowed. This should be agreed upon by the event directors (callers) prior to the auction and that will put forth the unquestionable ending of the event if no splits are allowed. Some sponsors may not wish to bid if the possibility of a split exists, more players/teams would be buying themselves for a 50/50 divide at match end. But if we some how drive out a fair percentage of the non-playing bidders the purse size will surely suffer. I am not at all a proponent of the split even though I've been involved in 3 that I can remember. The reason I agreed to split was because these were team events and the majority of they people involved were pro-split, and I believe in majority rules when there are no rules. The issue should be put to rest at the start of every event so there will be no confussion at the end. Let's hope this issue gets addressed and initiated at all our events, as it stands now it is an open loophole for possible arguing or hard feelings at the end of some events. Let's keep it simple and fun, afterall we're just one big "happy" family...Thanks for reading...Sogger27
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Post by sogger27 on Feb 17, 2007 20:43:45 GMT -5
Hi Shufflers! I feel that combining and splitting the 1st & 2nd place winnings between the final 2 players or teams should be left totally up to them. They should not have to give anyone a reason for the split as the winnings is their's to do with as they wish! The only thing at issue is if there are trophys or plaques. I say let them also decide who gets 1st place hardware...Thanks for reading...Sogger27
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